yknow if romeo had just Cried on juliets corpse for a couple hours instead of drinking poison Right Then they would have been Fine
The moral of the story is: always take time to cry for a few hours before making important decisions.
So I’m more or less being facetious here, but this is actually a thing.
Hamlet is genre savvy. Hamlet knows how Tragedies work, and he’s not going to rush in and get stabby without making absolutely certain he’s got all the facts.
Except once he thinks he has all the facts – once he’s certain that it really is the ghost of his father and Claudius really did kill him, he rushes in and stabs the wrong guy, which starts a domino line of deaths and gets Laertes embroiled in his own revenge tragedy and ultimately results in the deaths of nearly every character other than Horatio.
That’s the irony and the tragedy of the story. Hamlet knows his tropes and actively tries to avoid them, and the tropes get him anyway. It’s inevitable, the tropes are hungry.
I want a sticker that says the tropes are hungry so I can put it on my laptop
i met a scholar once who said that tragedies aren’t about a silly “flaw” or anything, it’s about having a hero who’s just in the wrong goddamn story
if hamlet swapped places with othello he wouldn’t be duped by any of iago’s shit, he’d sit down & have a good think & actually examine the facts before taking action. meanwhile in denmark, othello would have killed claudius before act 2 could even start. but instead nope, they’re both in situations where their greatest strengths are totally useless and now we’ve got all these bodies to bury.
The tropes are hungry and the hero is in the wrong goddamn story.
I love this post.
If you ever feel like a failure, maybe you’re just a hero in the wrong story
I feel deeply for detransitioned women and men—but having grown up as a girl, I feel especially for the women.
I absolutely think that some women, mostly lesbians, experience pressure to transition, and many young straight women have been persuaded to call themselves “non-binary” and “gay” because they think they don’t feel or act like a girl.
However, this is very different from my own experience, and this is something I think gets lost in most gender critical discourse:
I decided to transition as an adult, at age 30, after a lifetime of confusion and a decade of trying to convince myself that being trans didn’t make sense. I expected the worst from transition, thought it was illogical and that I was betraying womanhood, and even thought that I was a lesbian who would start to like women when I “grew up.”
After reaching the edge of sanity, I finally came out as a transsexual man—and I experienced a peace of mind and ease in social situations that I never even thought would be possible for me.
I entered transition as a well-informed adult, not because I thought I was born with the wrong brain but because I experienced a desperate desire to live and be embodied in the world as a man (or, as close as I could get barring biological permanents). I never experienced undo trauma like many detransitioners describe, either, except for the basic issues faced by all women growing up.
I shudder to think that so many are transitioning at increasingly young ages. This is a decision I could ONLY have made as an adult.
Unfortunately, just as many trans activists seem religious in devotion to their cause, too many radical feminists are zealots against transition. This is incredibly disheartening; is there no one out there who takes a more reasonable view? I cannot be the only one who takes a measured, rather than zealous, view gender and transition.
If you don’t already, I’d recommend following some dysphoric and trans radfems/rad-leaning feminists like @spooky-rad-luka and @bone-jar (if I’ve got the url right). I think a lot of us want to find a middle ground, or at least facilitate positive, compassionate and respectful dialogue.
Thank you for the shout out 💜💜💜
@discyours is a good trans radfem to follow too 😁😄
this is so funny sgdjdvdhdb especially considering males will never respect you back awww
Speak for yourself.
nah we all know what’s happening to women if the purge will happen, don’t lie to yourself
You realize you’re talking about a movie, right? And I hate to break it to you, but there were nearly as many women partaking in it as there were men.
But still, none of it is real so I have no idea what you’re going on about lol.
more like if the concept would take place irl, not what happened in the movie what the fuck
You’re talking about a hypothetical scenario based on a fictional film. What the fuck indeed.
omfg ok i’ll state it differently
what do you think males would do to women if everything suddenly was legal for 24 hours?
how is this hard to grasp? are you just in denial or?
Bad people would do bad things and good people would do good things. Men and women fall into both categories.
Or did you miss the parts in both movies where men protected and helped others, including women, and also fought back against the purgers?
except that it’s a movie and males irl aren’t good people lol
Keep telling yourself that.
Lmfao they brought up the movie to show how men are evil and when proved wrong, they completely changed their tune to “it’s just a movie” 😂
you didn’t understand my point lol
What point is there that isn’t a generalization based on no factual statistic that also ignores the crimes of women?
not feeling like whipping up statistics rn (@radicalesbian if you have the energy to do that please do)
but
whenever i explain to a male that i’m a radical feminist (misandrist leaning) and they get mad, i ask them what they think would happen to women if the purge (aka the legislation of all crime) would happen irl (and they mostly aren’t as intellectually incapable as everyone in this thread, and thinks it’s about the plot itself/what happens in movie, ironically), or i just ask them what they think would happen if rape was legalised.
and they understand my point and respect my thoughts immediately, and otherwise just shut down.
@imonlyadumpling She didn’t bring up the fucking movie “The Purge”, she brought up the idea of it happening in real life and what would happen to women if it did. And you KNOW what would happen so stop playing dumb.
Also almost all women DO show basic respect for men irl, even ones who say “I hate men” on the internet. We can’t afford not to, since they’re violent and assholish toward us even when we show them respect. Acting like men actually suffer from misandry is fucking ridiculous.
Misandry: men are trash lol
Misogyny:
SNATTTTTTCHED
Can all the “men” in this thread who genuinely think misandry is a legitimate problem / real-life threat to men in comparison to the way women are largely treated by men gain some perspective please?
“oh, i don’t see sex, i see people” said the genderist who would rather pretend sex can just be irrelevant now because they decided so, rather than consider the ways our society and their regressive politics specifically and actively oppress and endanger women and homosexuals
When it comes to a woman dissenting their opinion though they sure suddenly know what sex is when they call her a bitch, a cunt or a “terf”.
People who believe that small children are proof that gender roles are natural are really on a whole other level.
A young child, using words she learned purely
by mimicking
the way others speak: I want to be a mommy when I grow up.
Y’all absolute Mensa candidates: Wow. This child is a blank slate. Completely unaffected by society. Guess lady-brains truly are the only explanation here, science deniers.
Babies cry with an accent within a day of being born, and can even observe sounds while they’re still in the womb. There’s no stage of life where people aren’t already affected by socialisation, everyone who believes that nature can truly be separated from nurture is naive as fuck.
I absolutely love this post just because of the “y’all absolute mensa candidates” at the top.
So there’s this part of the mammalian brain called the neocortex. It’s the part of the mammalian brain which is basically a blank slate that just process input, figures out and predicts patterns from that input, and suborns autonomic processes to higher-level abstract patterns it works out from all that data. (On Intelligence by Jeff Hawkins, excellent neuroscience book, I highly recommend it). And humanity’s whole Thing is that our neocortex has become massively oversized and completely taken over our brain, to the point where it directs the action of the rest of the brain rather than the other way around like in other mammals. That’s basically our whole schtick as a species, being run by this massive blank-slate pattern matching machine rather than preprogrammed instincts.
Other mammals are instincts with some learning thrown on top, but humans are basically only learning, with some residual instincts to make sure we don’t fuck up too bad. That’s one of the reasons why humans take so much longer to develop motor skills than other species, because our brain has usurped the typical mammalian in-born neural motor programming with a blank slate that has to just like … figure that shit out on it’s own. Human babies can’t even see properly when they’re first born, even though they have perfectly functioning eyes, because our brain replaced all that silly mammalian visual recognition software with the neurological equivalent of a blank sheet of paper, a pencil, a shrug, and “you’ll figure it out, go get ‘em tiger”.
And that’s a huge advantage! Evolution can only adapt a species really, really slowly, to changing conditions over millions of years. Typical mammalian neocortices are a fantastic patch on that which allow adaptation over the course of a creature’s lifetime, but they don’t allow for that adaptation to be passed on, and it’s still just a patch on the greater impetus of evolved instincts. But humans. Ohohohoh. Humans are nothing but adaptation. Our ability to mimic and pass on behavior means that we don’t need a lot of those built up evolutionary behaviors which change so slowly, because we just can figure that shit out by mimicry and raw learning anyway. So we just ditched most of it and a lot of what’s left now comes with a “you can learn to override this if you need to” feature. It’s a way, way more flexible and adaptable system than that old clunky “being a bunch of preprogrammed mental software” thing other mammals use.
So the idea that you can assume anything about humans’ intrinsic instincts by looking at their behavior when young is just ridiculous. From the moment we’re born we are tiny pattern matching machines, intaking and copying everything around us, because we literally do not have enough instinct left as a species to exist without pattern matching other’s behavior. We can’t even fucking see without having to learn it from scratch. But yeah, I’m sure intrinsic gendered social skills and housecare aptitude made the evolutionary cut when fucking sight and walking got the axe.
Babies have three ‘instinctual reflexes’ at birth.
The grasping reflex, where the baby will wrap a hand around whats put in it.
The suckling reflex, where a baby will turn towards something touching its cheek, seeking a nipple for breast feeding.
And the swimming reflex, where when placed in water, a baby will begin doing swimming motions.
People who believe that small children are proof that gender roles are natural are really on a whole other level.
A young child, using words she learned purely
by mimicking
the way others speak: I want to be a mommy when I grow up.
Y’all absolute Mensa candidates: Wow. This child is a blank slate. Completely unaffected by society. Guess lady-brains truly are the only explanation here, science deniers.
Babies cry with an accent within a day of being born, and can even observe sounds while they’re still in the womb. There’s no stage of life where people aren’t already affected by socialisation, everyone who believes that nature can truly be separated from nurture is naive as fuck.
I absolutely love this post just because of the “y’all absolute mensa candidates” at the top.
So there’s this part of the mammalian brain called the neocortex. It’s the part of the mammalian brain which is basically a blank slate that just process input, figures out and predicts patterns from that input, and suborns autonomic processes to higher-level abstract patterns it works out from all that data. (On Intelligence by Jeff Hawkins, excellent neuroscience book, I highly recommend it). And humanity’s whole Thing is that our neocortex has become massively oversized and completely taken over our brain, to the point where it directs the action of the rest of the brain rather than the other way around like in other mammals. That’s basically our whole schtick as a species, being run by this massive blank-slate pattern matching machine rather than preprogrammed instincts.
Other mammals are instincts with some learning thrown on top, but humans are basically only learning, with some residual instincts to make sure we don’t fuck up too bad. That’s one of the reasons why humans take so much longer to develop motor skills than other species, because our brain has usurped the typical mammalian in-born neural motor programming with a blank slate that has to just like … figure that shit out on it’s own. Human babies can’t even see properly when they’re first born, even though they have perfectly functioning eyes, because our brain replaced all that silly mammalian visual recognition software with the neurological equivalent of a blank sheet of paper, a pencil, a shrug, and “you’ll figure it out, go get ‘em tiger”.
And that’s a huge advantage! Evolution can only adapt a species really, really slowly, to changing conditions over millions of years. Typical mammalian neocortices are a fantastic patch on that which allow adaptation over the course of a creature’s lifetime, but they don’t allow for that adaptation to be passed on, and it’s still just a patch on the greater impetus of evolved instincts. But humans. Ohohohoh. Humans are nothing but adaptation. Our ability to mimic and pass on behavior means that we don’t need a lot of those built up evolutionary behaviors which change so slowly, because we just can figure that shit out by mimicry and raw learning anyway. So we just ditched most of it and a lot of what’s left now comes with a “you can learn to override this if you need to” feature. It’s a way, way more flexible and adaptable system than that old clunky “being a bunch of preprogrammed mental software” thing other mammals use.
So the idea that you can assume anything about humans’ intrinsic instincts by looking at their behavior when young is just ridiculous. From the moment we’re born we are tiny pattern matching machines, intaking and copying everything around us, because we literally do not have enough instinct left as a species to exist without pattern matching other’s behavior. We can’t even fucking see without having to learn it from scratch. But yeah, I’m sure intrinsic gendered social skills and housecare aptitude made the evolutionary cut when fucking sight and walking got the axe.
Babies have three ‘instinctual reflexes’ at birth.
The grasping reflex, where the baby will wrap a hand around whats put in it.
The suckling reflex, where a baby will turn towards something touching its cheek, seeking a nipple for breast feeding.
And the swimming reflex, where when placed in water, a baby will begin doing swimming motions.
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